Beyond the Surface: Unpacking Competency Checking and the Fight for Equity: An Intentional Conversation with Shari Dunn

Nika White • May 8, 2025

In a compelling conversation between Dr. Nika White and Shari Dunn, CEO of ITBOMB and author of Qualified: How Competency Checking and Race Collide at Work, a crucial dialogue unfolded, shedding light on the systemic barriers hindering equity and inclusion in the workplace. Dunn's multifaceted career, spanning law, journalism, executive leadership, and academia, provides a rich lens through which she examines these complex issues.


Dr. White initiated the conversation by inquiring how Dunn's diverse professional background shapes her approach to equity and inclusion. Dunn eloquently responded, drawing on a Maya Angelou quote about the value of the journey. She highlighted how her experiences as an attorney, journalist, and educator bring depth and a multidimensional perspective to her consulting work, emphasizing the importance of understanding boundaries and adult learning principles in fostering meaningful change.


The discussion then pivoted to Dunn's book, Qualified, and the intriguing intersection of competency checking and race at work. Dr. White, as a woman of color, immediately recognized the significance of this connection. Dunn explained that her motivation for writing the book stemmed from hearing consistent narratives from Black women and other women of color across various industries about the barriers they faced. These experiences, she noted, indicated a systemic issue rather than isolated incidents.


Dunn powerfully stated, "The very first line of the book is that Black women are the canary in the workplace coal mine. And they have been signalling for years that something is devastatingly worse." She argued that the inhospitable conditions faced by Black women ultimately create inhospitable environments for other minoritized groups as well. Her hope for readers is to gain a deep and concrete understanding of the what, the why, the how, and crucially, what to do about these issues.


Dr. White then prompted Dunn to define "competency checking." Dunn explained that it manifests primarily in three ways: the assumption of Black intellectual inferiority (rooted in historical context), the fear of Black leadership and authority (an "autoimmune level rejection"), and the constant quizzing and need for confirmation of knowledge. In essence, competency checking requires Black individuals, other people of color, and women to prove their knowledge at a higher and harder standard to secure, maintain, and advance in their careers.


Challenging the common misconception that the lack of Black representation in certain jobs is due to a lack of qualification or pipeline issues, Dunn presented a crucial counterpoint. She cited data indicating that Black individuals tend to have more education yet are often underemployed, meaning they are in jobs that do not align with their qualifications. This disparity highlights how competency checking acts as a barrier, preventing qualified individuals from progressing. Dunn emphasized that understanding the mechanisms of competency checking is vital for developing practical solutions, like dissecting loan discrimination or redlining to address housing inequality.


The conversation also delved into the phenomenon of imposter syndrome. Dunn offered a compelling reinterpretation, arguing that it is often a misidentification of the impact of systemic inequity. Drawing on the original research on impostor syndrome, which focused on upper-middle-class white women during a period of significant societal change, Dunn suggested that the feelings of insecurity are often a direct result of being in spaces where one is underrepresented and facing systemic biases like competency checking. She powerfully stated, "You have to figure out if the call is coming from inside the house or outside the house? And in the case of competency checking, it's coming from outside the house." By reframing these feelings as a response to external systemic issues rather than internal deficiencies, Dunn advocates for systemic change rather than solely focusing on individual self-talk.


The discussion then shifted to the broader societal backlash against diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives, using the situation at Harvard University as a case study. Dunn critiqued the institution's initial response to attacks, suggesting that any concession, even the subtle renaming of a DEI center, emboldens those who oppose a just and equitable society. She argued for a firm stance against attempts to outlaw the language of diversity and equity, emphasizing that these efforts ultimately aim to dismantle any initiative supporting marginalized groups. While acknowledging Harvard's eventual pushback against executive overreach, Dunn underscored the complexity of the situation and the need for unwavering commitment to these principles.


Reflecting on how to equip young people to navigate competency checking, Dunn stressed the importance of historical grounding. Understanding that these biases are rooted in historical narratives, she believes, can help young people avoid internalizing these challenges as personal failings. She encouraged them to prepare themselves, build alliances across differences, and constructively call out instances of bias they witness.


In closing, the conversation touched upon the critical role of messaging and storytelling in advancing equity. Dunn emphasized the need for clarity and descriptive language that illuminates the complexities of intersectionality without relying solely on jargon. Drawing inspiration from James Baldwin's powerful and concise articulation of the Black American experience, Dunn underscored the importance of communication that resonates deeply and leaves no room for denial.



This insightful dialogue between Dr. Nika White and Shari Dunn offers a vital framework for understanding the insidious nature of competency checking and its profound impact on individuals and organizations. By naming this phenomenon and dissecting its mechanisms, Dunn provides a crucial step towards dismantling systemic barriers and fostering truly equitable and inclusive workplaces.


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By Nika White August 8, 2025
Recently, Dr. Nika White and Dr. Roz Cohen had a conversation that explored what it truly takes to build an engaging, inclusive, and thriving workplace. Their discussion went beyond surface-level solutions, diving into the core elements that create a sense of belonging and drive organizational success. The Journey to People-First Leadership Dr. Roz Cohen's path to becoming a chief people officer is a testament to the idea that a career isn't always a straight line. She began with aspirations of becoming a doctor, but a difficult organic chemistry class led her to pivot to psychology. Her experience as a resident advisor sparked a passion for student affairs, and she eventually transitioned into finance—a field in which she had no prior experience. This diverse background, which includes earning a Ph.D., has given her a unique perspective on the importance of human-centered leadership. The "Engagement Trifecta": Thinking, Feeling, and Belonging One of the key concepts they explored was the engagement trifecta, which Dr. Cohen broke down into three crucial components: thinking, feeling, and belonging. While many organizations focus on the feeling of inclusivity, they often overlook the intellectual engagement aspect. Dr. Cohen emphasized that to truly engage employees, companies must critically evaluate job roles to ensure they are intellectually stimulating. This means moving beyond a simple checklist of tasks and considering how each role can provide a sense of purpose and intellectual challenge. Shared Accountability for Belonging The conversation also highlighted the critical role of shared accountability in creating a workplace where everyone belongs. Dr. White noted that fostering a culture of respect and inclusion isn't just the responsibility of leadership—it's a shared effort. Dr. Cohen agreed, pointing out that organizations often fail to involve employees in this process. Both leaders agreed that direct conversations about individual needs and providing recognition are essential for building a supportive and connected workplace culture. The Power of Vulnerability in Leadership Both Dr. White and Dr. Cohen stressed the importance of vulnerability in leadership, contrasting it with traditional authoritative styles. Dr. Cohen shared her practice of being open about what she knows and what she doesn't know, which fosters genuine dialogue and builds trust. She recounted a compelling story from an interview at Bank of America Securities. When asked a question she didn't understand, she chose to be honest and ask for clarification instead of faking it. Her honesty impressed the interviewer and underscored the power of authentic vulnerability. The conversation also touched on the need for organizations to rethink promotion criteria. They argued that leaders should be promoted based on their ability to manage and lead effectively, not just their technical skills. By promoting individuals who are willing to be vulnerable and who prioritize psychological safety, organizations can create environments where employees feel comfortable expressing challenges and are more productive. Beyond Culture Fit: Embracing Cultural Add Finally, the discussion delved into the potential biases of "culture fit." Dr. White pointed out that this concept can often favor those who conform to the dominant culture, hindering diversity. Dr. Cohen suggested a more effective approach: defining culture not by personal preferences but by behaviors that align with organizational values. They advocated for a shift toward "cultural add," a concept that values and celebrates diverse perspectives, ensuring that the organization is not just a reflection of itself but a richer, more dynamic collection of people and ideas. Ultimately, this conversation was a powerful reminder that building a great workplace requires intentional effort, open communication, and a commitment from both leaders and employees to create a culture where everyone feels they belong and can thrive. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.
By Nika White August 5, 2025
In a world saturated with data and an ever-increasing pace of change, the ancient art of storytelling has re-emerged as a crucial "power skill" for connection, inclusion, and influential impact. More than just entertainment, stories have the profound ability to shape perceptions, evoke emotions, and inspire action. My recent travels with my family to Ghana deeply underscored this truth, transforming abstract historical facts into a lived, palpable experience that I believe is vital for us all to acknowledge and learn from. Echoes of History: Assin Manso Slave River Our journey took us to the Assin Manso Slave River, a place where history echoes with unimaginable pain, resilience, and remembrance. Standing on those riverbanks, I felt the weight of generations who were forcibly taken from their homeland, many having their last bath in this river before being led to the coast and across the Atlantic. We journeyed the same path as our ancestors and did so with bare feet to honor and pay respects to their journey and strength. We touched the same water in which many of them took their last baths prior to being forced to cross the Atlantic. It was a deeply sobering experience, yet also a sacred moment of connection: honoring those who endured, those who were lost, and the unbreakable spirit that lives on through us. Traveling as a family made it even more meaningful. Together, we reflected not only on the brutality of the past but also on the power of remembering, acknowledging, and carrying forward those stories. Through the Door of No Return: Cape Coast Castle Further along our journey, we visited Cape Coast Castle, one of the most profound and haunting experiences of the trip. Walking through dark, narrow dungeons, where thousands of enslaved Africans were held before being forced onto ships, was beyond words. Standing before "the Door of No Return," we felt the weight of generational trauma, loss, and the resilience it took for our ancestors to survive. It wasn't just history but a sacred moment of remembrance and acknowledgment—a space where grief, reflection, and ancestral pride come together. Leaving through what's now "the Door of Return," we honored those who could not return and reaffirmed our responsibility to carry their stories, strength, and legacy forward. This visit left an indelible mark on our hearts, a reminder that remembering is an act of love and telling these stories is an act of liberation. Storytelling as a Catalyst for DEI This personal journey powerfully illustrates why storytelling is so critical, especially in the context of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). History, as often taught, can be a selective narrative, frequently marginalizing the experiences of communities like those of enslaved Africans and Indigenous peoples whose contributions were instrumental yet often overlooked or romanticized. Storytelling offers a potent antidote to this historical injustice, allowing marginalized voices to be heard and their contributions recognized. By centering these stories, we can challenge dominant narratives and foster empathy, breaking down harmful stereotypes and promoting cultural understanding. Stories uniquely humanize experiences, allowing individuals to reveal vulnerabilities, triumphs, and challenges, thereby creating deeper connections with others. When employees share their stories, it fosters empathy, breaks down stereotypes, and dismantles barriers, bridging different cultures, backgrounds, and perspectives. By amplifying marginalized voices, organizations can create a more inclusive narrative and challenge biases. The Strategic Advantage of Storytelling in Organizations Beyond individual connections, storytelling is a strategic advantage for organizations. It can transform complex ideas into compelling narratives, drive engagement, and influence decision-making. For instance, weaving narratives around data makes complex information more accessible and engaging, with 92% of business leaders and data professionals attesting to its effectiveness. The transformative power of storytelling extends to various facets of an organization: Enhanced Communication: Clear and concise storytelling improves both internal and external communication. Increased Engagement: Stories captivate audiences, fostering deeper connections and better retention of information. Improved Decision-Making: Data-driven narratives can inform strategic choices. Stronger Brand Identity: Consistent storytelling strengthens brand identity and reputation. Increased Innovation: Stories inspire creativity and spark new ideas. Human Resources Innovation: Storytelling can improve employee engagement, onboarding, and performance review. It also plays a significant role in talent attraction and retention by highlighting a company's unique culture and values. Cultivating a Storytelling Culture Cultivating a storytelling culture requires intentional investment, including leadership buy-in and targeted training. Leaders must champion storytelling as a core competency, model behavior by actively using stories in their communications, and integrate stories into leadership decision processes. Training employees in core storytelling skills, data storytelling, visual storytelling, and cultural sensitivity is also crucial. A Legacy of Stories My family's journey to Ghana was a powerful reminder that some stories are not just narratives; they are living legacies that demand to be remembered and shared. By embracing storytelling, we can build bridges of understanding, foster deeper connections, and drive meaningful change within our organizations and communities. It's about recognizing the power in every individual's experience and using those narratives to create a more inclusive, equitable, and human-centered world.
By Nika White August 5, 2025
In a recent insightful Intentional Conversations Vodcast, Dr. Nika White brought together an inspiring panel of guest co-hosts: Dr. Venessa Perry , Dawn Christian , and Chelsea Williams . This intentional conversation delved beyond professional accolades, focusing on the deeply personal journeys and shared experiences that shape their impactful work. The discussion powerfully underscored the critical role of wellness, self-care, and robust community support, especially for Black women entrepreneurs navigating the complexities of business and life. More Than Just Business: Personal Journeys and Wellness The vodcast kicked off with warm introductions, setting a tone of genuine connection. Chelsea Williams enthusiastically shared her personal commitment to fitness, celebrating milestones like completing her first 10K and training for a half-marathon. Dr. Nika applauded Chelsea’s drive, emphasizing that wellness and self-care aren't luxuries but necessities for busy women leaders. Dr. Nika herself highlighted her investment in a walking pad, a testament to integrating physical activity even amidst demanding schedules. This segment beautifully illustrated that true leadership extends beyond the boardroom; it's rooted in nurturing one's whole self. Navigating Challenges and Embracing Regenerative Strength The conversation then shifted to the unique challenges faced by Black women entrepreneurs. Chelsea bravely discussed the emotional weight that can accompany economic pressures, underscoring the vital need for self-care and strong support systems. She emphasized the importance of intentionally unplugging to recharge and plan for the future. Dawn Christian introduced three powerful concepts: rest, resilience, and resistance. She redefined resilience, explaining it's not about enduring alone but about harnessing community support and knowing when to let go. Dr. Nika resonated deeply with this, introducing the idea of regenerative strength – a well-being-first approach to resilience that encourages self-reflection on what truly serves or depletes one's energy. Dr. Venessa Perry echoed this sentiment, highlighting her focus on supporting Black women through community and well-being initiatives, including transformative retreats. Breaking Up with Busyness: Finding Purpose Beyond Productivity A highlight of the discussion was Dawn Christian’s powerful message from her TEDx talk, "Breaking Up with Busyness." Dawn candidly shared her realization of being in a "relationship" with busyness, often mistaking it for purpose. She passionately advocates for understanding busyness's impact on personal well-being and introduced "The Living Room," a service designed to offer busy professionals brief, impactful moments of clarity and support. This resonated deeply with Dr. Nika, who affirmed the crucial role of prioritizing self-care in leadership. Purposeful Leadership and the Power of Connection Chelsea Williams also illuminated her organization's evolution, emphasizing the significance of joy and purpose in forming partnerships. Her team is dedicated to developing leaders at all levels and enhancing team dynamics, and they are now extending their focus to support small businesses and nonprofits. The conversation culminated in a powerful discussion on the importance of community and connection for business growth. Dr. Nika highlighted the privilege of business ownership and the need for selective opportunities, particularly in challenging economic times. Dr. Venessa shared her intentional approach to networking, emphasizing the invaluable support and opportunities gained from engaging with organizations like the Greater Washington Black Chamber of Commerce. Dawn Christian elaborated on the value of genuine connections, sharing how her involvement in various organizations has significantly contributed to her growth as a business owner. She powerfully reiterated the importance of resilience – embracing both triumphs and setbacks as part of the journey. This vodcast served as a powerful reminder that while professional achievements are important, it's our personal well-being, our intentional connections, and our willingness to challenge societal norms around productivity that truly fuel sustainable success and joy. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.
By Nika White August 5, 2025
In a world that often glorifies being constantly on the go, the recent conversation between Dr. Nika White and Peggy Sullivan, a "busyness addict in recovery," offered a refreshing and much-needed perspective on prioritizing well-being, fostering genuine connection, and redefining productivity. Their intentional dialogue, brimming with personal anecdotes and actionable strategies, illuminated the path to a more fulfilling and less frantic existence. From Hectic to Holistic: Peggy Sullivan's Journey Peggy Sullivan, author of "Beyond Busyness," openly shared her transformative journey from a life consumed by corporate America's relentless pace to one focused on fulfillment. Her "wake-up calls" were stark: a stress-induced heart attack and a relationship breakdown due to neglect. These pivotal moments forced her to confront the illusion that busyness equates to productivity or happiness. Dr. White applauded Peggy's recovery and emphasized the critical need for proactive measures to avoid such breaking points, highlighting the subtle signs of burnout we often overlook. Unmasking Low-Value Activities: Reclaiming Your Time One of the most compelling aspects of the discussion revolved around identifying and eliminating "low-value activities." Peggy shared a staggering statistic: many workers spend a third of their time in unproductive meetings. Multitasking, she asserted, is another significant drain on productivity. She advocated for a focused approach, encouraging individuals to pinpoint just one unproductive habit at a time to begin reclaiming precious hours in their week. Dr. White resonated with this, seeking further clarification on how to effectively recognize these insidious time-wasters. A powerful example came from an entrepreneur who, overwhelmed by email volume, encouraged his team to critically evaluate the necessity of their communications. The result? A remarkable 45% reduction in emails, leading to enhanced focus and productivity. Dr. White further reinforced the simplicity of prioritizing, likening it to distinguishing between "glass and plastic balls" – some tasks are truly fragile and require immediate attention, while others can be dropped without shattering your day. The Neuroscience of Joy: "Mojo Making" for Productivity Beyond simply cutting out the bad, the conversation delved into the power of cultivating the good. Peggy introduced the captivating concept of "mojo making" – intentional happiness rituals designed to boost morale and, surprisingly, enhance productivity. She shared her experience implementing brief dance parties and moments of joy in the workplace, which led to significant improvements in employee metrics. Dr. White enthusiastically supported this, recognizing that even small moments of joy can profoundly impact overall mood and, consequently, productivity. Values Management: A New Paradigm for Well-being Moving beyond traditional time management, the speakers explored "values management," emphasizing core values such as self-care, growth, human connection, and authenticity. Peggy highlighted how these values contribute not only to personal fulfillment but also to workplace performance. Dr. White deeply connected with these ideas, underscoring the importance of energy management and the vital role of authentic human connections in fostering a thriving work environment. Doing Less for More: The Counterintuitive Truth Dr. White's inquiry into surprising findings from Peggy's research for "Beyond Busyness" revealed a counterintuitive truth: society's belief that "more is better" often leads to less happiness and productivity. Peggy's research indicated that being intentional and actually doing less can unlock greater fulfillment and efficiency. She challenged listeners to embrace this mindset shift, noting that many who do report gaining extra hours in their week for truly meaningful activities. The intentional conversation between Dr. Nika White and Peggy Sullivan serves as a powerful reminder that true productivity isn't about how busy we are, but how intentional we are. By recognizing the signs of burnout, eliminating low-value activities, cultivating joy, and aligning our actions with our core values, we can escape the busyness trap and create a life that is not only productive but also deeply fulfilling. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.
By Nika White July 21, 2025
In a recent Intentional Conversations Vodcast episode, Dr. Nika White welcomed a truly inspiring guest co-host, Valarie Sandjivy , a leadership mentor and business coach with over two decades of experience. Their discussion dove deep into the nuances of modern leadership, highlighting the critical roles of self-care, emotional mastery, and adaptability in achieving actual high performance. A Journey of Growth and Challenging Fears Valarie's unique approach to life and personal growth captivated listeners from the outset. With travels to over 30 countries, Valarie shared how she intentionally seeks out experiences that push her boundaries, including walking on fire and immersing herself in ice water. Dr. Nika expressed profound admiration for Valarie's commitment to personal evolution, even sharing her transformative travel experience in Ghana. This discussion set the stage for a conversation centered on embracing discomfort for growth. From Corporate to Conscious Leadership: The Self-Care Imperative Valarie shared her journey from the corporate world to entrepreneurship, a transition that profoundly shaped her leadership philosophy. She emphasized that effective leaders must manage complex responsibilities, guide their teams through emotional journeys, and foster growth. Dr. Nika echoed this, shedding light on the often-overlooked weight of entrepreneurship and reinforcing the absolute necessity of self-care in leadership roles. Nurturing Your Inner World: Strategies for Well-Being The conversation then shifted to practical strategies for personal well-being and emotional regulation. Valarie stressed the importance of nurturing the body and nervous system to manage stress effectively. She shared her experiments with silence and understanding her limits, underscoring the power of self-awareness. Dr. Nika enthusiastically agreed, highlighting the immense value of emotional regulation and the profound clarity from simply sitting in silence. Embracing Life's Cycles: The Power of Adaptability One of the most compelling points of the discussion was Valarie's insight into adapting to life's cycles. She emphasized that just as nature experiences seasons and daily rhythms, individuals and businesses must learn to adjust to these inherent cycles to thrive and avoid collapse, especially in an era of rapid change like the rise of AI. Valarie beautifully used the metaphor of flowers growing through concrete to illustrate the resilience and adaptability required to navigate these shifts successfully. Beyond Emotional Intelligence: The Path to Emotional Mastery Dr. Nika and Valarie then delved into the crucial concepts of self-leadership and emotional mastery for executive roles. Valarie explained that leaders must be acutely aware of their emotional triggers and meticulously manage their responses to maintain professionalism. She made a clear distinction, asserting that emotional mastery goes beyond mere emotional intelligence; it demands a deeper understanding and processing of one's emotions without projecting them onto others. High Performance: Presence Over Overdoing The discussion on emotional mastery naturally led to a deeper exploration of high performance in leadership. Dr. White highlighted that emotional regulation involves acknowledging emotions and utilizing various tools for effective management. Valarie added a crucial nuance: high performance isn't about overdoing or constant striving, often leading to burnout. Instead, it stems from being fully present in the moment. Grounded Growth: Intentional Conversations for Transformation As the conversation drew to a close, Dr. Nika and Valarie explored the concept of meaningful transformation for leaders and organizations in our ever-changing world. Valarie underscored the significance of staying grounded and emphasized the need for leaders to engage in intentional conversations about growth and innovation, with themselves and their teams. Valarie generously offered a free leadership assessment to further support leaders on their journey, designed around foundational pillars for effective leadership. This "Intentional Conversation" with Valarie Sandjivy was a powerful reminder that authentic leadership extends beyond strategy and execution. It's deeply rooted in self-awareness, emotional intelligence, and the courage to engage in the intentional work of personal growth and well-being. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.
By Nika White July 11, 2025
Dr. Nika White Consulting recently hosted a powerful and poignant conversation featuring Dr. Nika White and special guest co-host Robyn Hicks-Guinn , founder of Hicks Guinn Law LLC. The discussion delved into the often uncomfortable but critically important topics of estate planning, guardianship, and business succession, offering invaluable insights for individuals and entrepreneurs alike. A Lawyer's Journey: Empathy Born from Experience Robyn Hicks Guinn shared her deeply personal journey into law, revealing that her motivation stemmed from her own experiences with significant loss. This foundation has shaped her empathetic approach, particularly in estate planning. Robyn is committed to making legal services accessible to everyone, predominantly low-income and minority clients. She does this through dedicated pro bono work and sliding scale fees, viewing her practice as a ministry. As an African American woman attorney, Robyn noted that clients often seek her out due to shared backgrounds, fostering a crucial sense of trust and understanding in sensitive legal matters. This highlights the importance of diversity in the legal profession in building trust across various communities. The Unspoken Truths of Estate Planning The conversation illuminated the emotional challenges families face when confronting estate planning. Robyn emphasized the barriers that prevent people from engaging in these essential conversations. Many misconceptions surround estate planning, and a key takeaway was the importance of initiating these discussions early. By educating clients, Robyn aims to empower them to navigate their estate planning needs effectively, ensuring their wishes are honored and their families are protected. Charting the Future: Business Succession Planning For entrepreneurs, the discussion shifted to the critical necessity of proactive business succession planning. Dr. Nika and Robyn outlined crucial questions business owners should consider, such as their retirement goals and who might take over the business, whether family members or trusted employees. They stressed the importance of not assuming children will want to inherit the business, and the risks associated with failing to plan. These risks can include the potential loss of business value and significant client impact. Dr. Nika even shared personal insights about her family's business dynamics, reinforcing the need for open discussions to ensure a smooth transition and safeguard family interests while maintaining business continuity. Navigating Guardianship and Probate with Care The emotional toll of guardianship and probate cases on families was a central theme. Robyn meticulously outlined the estate administration process and the vital role of legal documents, such as a health care power of attorney, in avoiding guardianships. The growing significance of guardianships in the context of deportation and the need for Medicaid and Medicare planning were also addressed, highlighting the evolving complexities of these legal areas. Robyn continuously stays updated on state law changes through teaching courses and community seminars, ensuring her knowledge of relevant issues is current. Beyond the Law: Balancing Passion and Profession A powerful discussion segment touched on the importance of personal passions in maintaining professional balance. Robyn shared how activities like triathlons, cooking, and traveling play a crucial role in managing the demands of her legal profession. Engaging in these activities helps her "reset and recharge," allowing her to better support families during difficult times better. Taking Proactive Steps for Your Future The session concluded with a strong encouragement for participants to seek consultations with local attorneys, reinforcing a community-oriented approach to these critical legal topics. Robyn emphasized the importance of taking proactive steps, such as seeking free consultations and attending informative seminars.  Estate planning, guardianship, and business succession aren't just legal necessities; they are acts of love and responsibility that secure your legacy and protect your loved ones. Don't wait until it's too late – start these conversations today. For more information or to connect with Robyn Hicks Guinn, you can reach out to Hicks-Guinn Law LLC. While this blog provides general insights, it's essential to consult with a qualified attorney for advice tailored to your specific situation. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.
By Nika White July 8, 2025
Dr. Nika White recently had an insightful conversation with Dr. Carleen Carey , a distinguished educator with 15 years of experience in K-12 and higher education, specializing in diversity, equity, and inclusion. Dr. Carey, who currently teaches literature at the University of Maryland Global Campus, brought a wealth of knowledge and a unique perspective to various pressing topics. This engaging dialogue, characteristic of Dr. Nika White's flexible approach, allowed for an organic flow, exploring critical issues impacting our communities and future. From Global Tensions to Local Realities: Addressing Pressing Issues The conversation between Dr. White and Dr. Carey touched on significant political issues, including concerns about leadership disconnects and the implications of recent legislative changes. They expressed concerns about how international conflicts, even those far from home, directly impact everyday Americans, notably through rising gas prices. This segment underscored the interconnectedness of global events and local realities, reminding us all of the broader forces at play in our daily lives. The Heart of Education: Challenges, Equity, and Hidden Histories Dr. Carleen Carey's passion for education, rooted in the rich cultural heritage of Black women educators, shone brightly throughout the discussion. She reflected on her background, including her impactful role in managing the agriculture program at Baltimore City Schools, which provided hands-on learning experiences and highlighted the healing benefits of nature. Dr. Nika White engaged with Dr. Carey on the significance of emotional regulation and community support within educational settings. The conversation deeply explored educational challenges, particularly those exposed during the sudden shift to remote learning amidst the pandemic. Dr. Carleen highlighted the significant inequities faced by students with disabilities, emphasizing the urgent need for adequate resources and comprehensive teacher training to accommodate diverse learning needs. They also discussed immigrant families' challenges adapting to the American educational system. A fascinating aspect of the discussion involved the "Hidden Histories" initiative. Dr. Carleen shared her aim to educate individuals about underrepresented historical narratives, focusing on Native American history. Dr. Nika White praised the initiative for addressing the lack of comprehensive historical education and the need for open discussions about these crucial yet often overlooked perspectives in American history. Both speakers acknowledged the profound significance of understanding diverse perspectives for a more complete historical understanding. The Ethical Frontier: AI, Literature, and Critical Thinking The dialogue explored the complex ethical considerations surrounding Artificial Intelligence (AI), particularly its impact on education and employment. Dr. Carleen highlighted her research on Black girls' identity formation through literature and critiqued the reliance on AI in recruitment processes, noting its potential to create barriers for job seekers. Dr. Nika and Dr. Carleen stressed the importance of critical thinking and responsible AI use, particularly as students can often discern when AI has evaluated their work versus a human. Literature emerged as a powerful tool for fostering equity and healing. Dr. Carleen emphasized how literature provides multiple perspectives, helping students recognize their limitations in understanding and empowering them to navigate contemporary issues. She shared experiences in teaching, particularly focusing on historical figures like Fannie Lou Hamer, to empower students in shaping their own narratives. The discussion truly underscored the role of diverse narratives in literature and education in helping students navigate a complex world. Beyond the Professional: Personal Joys and Authentic Leadership Beyond the weighty topics, a delightful moment of personal connection emerged as Dr. Carleen revealed her interest in collecting antique sewing machines, which she enjoys restoring and using. She highlighted the joy these machines bring her and shared her experiences of discovering them in thrift stores. Dr. Nika White expressed her appreciation for Dr. Carleen's passion, emphasizing the importance of finding joy in daily habits amidst challenging global events – a powerful reminder for us all.  The intentional conversation concluded with Dr. Nika White expressing gratitude to Dr. Carleen S. Carey for her invaluable insights. Dr. Nika also announced the launch of Dr. Carey's new LinkedIn newsletter, "Holy Leading," which aims to promote authenticity in leadership – a fitting end to a discussion rich in thoughtful reflection and forward-looking perspectives. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.
By Nika White June 20, 2025
In today's rapidly evolving professional landscape, effective leadership demands more than just traditional skills; it requires a deep commitment to cultural humility and inclusivity. This blog post explores key insights from a recent "Intentional Conversations" vodcast episode featuring Dr. Nika White as host and guest Dr. Joel Pérez , author of "Dear White Leader." We'll delve into their discussion on fostering belonging and psychological safety, the continuous journey of self-awareness, the power of curiosity, and the crucial business imperative of creating truly inclusive environments. Dr. Joel Pérez: Championing Cultural Humility in Leadership. Dr. White and Dr. Pérez unpacked the concept of cultural humility, positioning it as a critical element in modern leadership, far beyond traditional diversity approaches. Dr. Pérez defined it as fostering belonging and psychological safety within organizations. He highlighted its key characteristics, contrasting it with the more static idea of cultural competence and stressing the importance of empathy and emotional understanding for effective leadership. For Dr. Pérez, cultural humility is a continuous journey that begins with self-awareness, actively addresses power imbalances, and ultimately promotes organizational change. The Lifelong Journey of Cultural Humility and the Power of Curiosity Dr. Pérez shared insights from his coaching program, "Culture, Humility, Coaching," specifically designed to enhance diversity, equity, and inclusion skills among leaders. He stressed that cultural humility is not a destination but a continuous process that leaders must embody in all aspects of their lives. Dr. White powerfully reinforced the significance of curiosity in this journey, advocating for leaders to ask open-ended questions and genuinely seek understanding. The conversation also touched upon the challenges of addressing privilege. Dr. White emphasized the importance of knowing one's audience in communication and constructively acknowledging privilege not as a source of shame but as a resource for helping others. This perspective resonated deeply with Dr. Pérez's views, showcasing a shared understanding of how privilege can be leveraged for positive impact. Practical Strategies for Cultivating Self-Awareness and Community Support The discussion offered practical strategies for leaders to foster self-awareness and build community support. Dr. Pérez outlined three key areas: recognizing personal biases, understanding one's own identities, and developing awareness of others. He stressed the importance of honest feedback and reflective practices in enhancing self-awareness and the crucial need for community support throughout this journey. Dr. Pérez also highlighted the detrimental effects of poor listening habits, advocating for leaders to cultivate curiosity and deep listening skills. He recommended asking open-ended questions about decision-making processes and providing feedback in a nurturing manner. Dr. White added that aligning activities at the start of meetings can significantly enhance presence and engagement. The Business Imperative of Belonging Dr. White and Dr. Pérez powerfully articulated the financial benefits of creating inclusive environments. Dr. Pérez cited research demonstrating that fostering a sense of belonging can lead to substantial cost savings, particularly in talent retention. While acknowledging that some organizations may resist change, he emphasized that incremental improvements could yield significant long-term returns on investment. The session concluded with a call to action for participants to continue engaging with the shared resources and to collaborate with others in their personal and professional growth journeys. Dr. Pérez underscored the significance of community in leadership and personal development, encouraging individuals to engage with peers and discuss his book to deepen their understanding. What steps can you take today to cultivate cultural humility in your leadership journey? Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.
By Nika White June 19, 2025
A recent compelling dialogue featured Dr. Nika White and Sylvia Rohde-Liebenau , who joined Dr. White as a guest co-host. Their conversation, spanning continents with Sylvia calling in from Girona, Spain, near Barcelona, seamlessly explored critical themes: intentional leadership, the evolving role of AI, and the profound impact of embodiment in today's world. Intentional Leadership and AI Collaboration: Dr. White introduced Sylvia by highlighting her expertise in leadership and executive coaching, particularly her focus on emotional and body intelligence. Sylvia's passion for intentional leadership resonated deeply, and she articulated a coaching approach uniquely informed by her background as an artist and dancer. She emphasized the enduring importance of human qualities in an era increasingly shaped by AI and automation. This led to a discussion about responsible AI initiatives. Artistic Leadership in Coaching: Sylvia, based near Barcelona, shared her journey, which included a career path through international relations, finance, and HR before she found her calling in independent leadership coaching three years ago. Her unique approach infuses her lifelong passion for dance, acting, and the arts into her coaching methodology. She described how this artistic and embodied perspective brings a fresh dimension to coaching and communication. Sylvia's experience highlights the value of creative perspectives within corporate and organizational settings. Power Sharing for Better Outcomes: The discussion shifted to the crucial concept of power. Sylvia offered a nuanced definition, distinguishing between the illusion of power from position or control and the true capability to achieve intended outcomes. Her emphasis on sharing power as both a humane and strategically sound approach was particularly thought-provoking. Sylvia argued that clinging to power can be detrimental, weakening societies and diminishing individual potential. Recognizing that power is not the exclusive domain of any single group and actively choosing to share it can lead to more effective and equitable outcomes. Embodiment in Leadership: Presence and Connection: Sylvia passionately discussed the significance of embodiment in leadership. She explained that being truly present in one's body fosters greater authority, enhances emotional regulation, and deepens connection with others. She shared practical examples of how embodiment practices, such as movement and meditation, can equip leaders to respond with greater calm and clarity, especially in challenging situations. The conversation also touched upon the crucial role of emotional expression in leadership. Sylvia emphasized that vulnerability and honest communication about emotions can build trust and foster stronger relationships, without requiring leaders to overshare. Embodiment in Leadership and DEI: Building on the theme of embodiment, Sylvia explored its intrinsic link to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). She shared examples of how coaching incorporating embodiment practices can help leaders connect with their authentic selves and embrace their unique power. The upcoming retreat in Spain, focused on practical embodiment for leadership, promises to be an invaluable opportunity for those seeking to deepen their understanding. The overarching message was clear: self-awareness, a strong sense of identity, and the ability to remain calm and present are fundamental to effective leadership and the successful implementation of DEI initiatives. Final Thoughts: This conversation between Dr. Nika White and Sylvia Rohde-Liebenau offered a rich tapestry of insights, connecting seemingly disparate fields like AI and art to the core principles of intentional and embodied leadership. It served as a powerful reminder that true leadership in today's complex world requires not only strategic thinking but also a deep understanding of human connection, the willingness to share power, and the ability to be fully present – in mind, body, and spirit. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.
By Nika White June 11, 2025
The latest episode of the Intentional Conversations podcast featured a robust dialogue between Dr. Nika White and Dr. Ingrid Waldron , offering profound insights into community engagement, mental health, and the pervasive issue of systemic racism. Dr. White set the stage by introducing Dr. Waldron, highlighting her extensive research on mental health within Black communities and her vital work in environmental justice. The conversation also thoughtfully acknowledged important national observances like Pride Month and Juneteenth. Dr. Ingrid Waldron's Journey: From Personal Struggle to Academic Insight Dr. Waldron's narrative was a cornerstone of the discussion. She shared her diverse life experiences, moving across various locations in Canada, pursuing her master's degree in London, and even interning with the World Health Organization. A significant turning point in her journey was confronting systemic racism as a Black woman in Canada. This firsthand experience propelled her to delve deeper into the broader impacts of anti-Black racism on mental health, ultimately leading to her impactful research on racial trauma and its implications for well-being. Her academic pursuits became a direct extension of her lived experiences. Unpacking the Challenges: Systemic Racism and Mental Health for Black Women The conversation naturally transitioned to the complex challenges of addressing systemic racism and mental health, particularly for Black women. Dr. Waldron highlighted her significant contributions, including the Sisterhood Initiative , a program designed to provide essential health services for Black women. Both speakers observed a growing, albeit still evolving, awareness of mental health issues within the Black community. They stressed the critical importance of acknowledging the unique experiences of Black individuals, especially within the context of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Dr. Waldron voiced concerns about the diminishing focus on DEI efforts in Canada, specifically noting a decline in hiring Black professors. Dr. White, in turn, emphasized the crucial need to address the specific nature of anti-Black racism, ensuring it isn't diluted within broader DEI discussions. The Racialization of Psychiatric Diagnosis and Barriers to Care A particularly illuminating part of the discussion involved the intersection of racial and gender biases in psychiatric diagnoses. Dr. Waldron explained how these biases can lead to misdiagnoses among Black individuals, citing statistics that show Black men are often overdiagnosed with schizophrenia. In contrast, Black women are frequently underdiagnosed with depression. These disparities are usually influenced by societal stereotypes that shape how mental health professionals perceive Black individuals. The complexities of help-seeking behaviors within the Black community were also a key topic, underscoring the urgent need for culturally competent mental health resources. Both Dr. Waldron and Dr. White shared personal anecdotes illustrating how the perception of Black people as inherently "strong" can inadvertently lead to them being seen as less deserving of care and empathy, with significant implications for health outcomes. Community-Based Research and the Fight Against Environmental Racism Dr. Waldron's unwavering commitment to community-based research and her groundbreaking work on environmental racism were powerfully highlighted. She discussed how her approach involves building authentic relationships with impacted communities, prioritizing their needs and perspectives in her research, and connecting them with journalists to amplify their stories. Her book, "There's Something in the Water," which delves into environmental racism, gained widespread recognition, even being adapted into a Netflix documentary. This film premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival, igniting global conversations and significantly enhancing advocacy efforts by raising awareness among a broader audience. Breaking the Stigma: Seeking Help as a Strength The discussion concluded with a vital focus on the enduring stigma surrounding mental health in the Black community. Dr. Waldron noted the prevailing belief that seeking help indicates weakness, which she actively challenged. She urged individuals to recognize that therapy can be profoundly beneficial for various reasons, including personal growth and understanding behavioral patterns. Dr. Waldron powerfully reassured listeners that seeking help is, in fact, a sign of strength , particularly for those grappling with mental health challenges. This episode of Intentional Conversations served as a compelling call to action, emphasizing the interconnectedness of community well-being, mental health, and the ongoing fight against systemic racism. Intentional Conversations is a weekly podcast by Nika White Consulting that intersects diversity, equity, and inclusion dialogue with leadership and business. Click here to register to attend the live sessions each Friday from 11 a.m. to 12 noon EST. You may also search archives to view replays of past episodes, or you can listen to the Intentional Conversations Podcast on your favorite platform.